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Fortran install problem from Hobbyist kit |
liviusmaximus
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Location: Sao Paulo, SP, Brazil
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| Posted on December 31 2005 05:12 |
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Hi there,
I am trying to install Fortran 7.5 from Hobbyist kit (CD version 3.0)
on my OpenVMS 7.3-1 and am getting the following error message:
DCL-E-OPENIN error opening
SYS$SYSROOT:[SYS$STARTUP]FORT$STARTUP.COM; as input
-RMS-E-FNF file not found
Terminate [YES}: yes
Does anyone know why Layered Product Fortran is having this
installation problem ?
Thanks in advance,
Luiz |
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fortran instalation problems |
ton.vanderzwet
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Location: Apeldoorn, The Netherlands
Joined: 12.01.06 |
| Posted on January 13 2006 11:53 |
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Hi Luiz,
without more information its difficult to give a sollution. Lets start at the beginning:
-I guess this is a Alpha
If you are logged in as system and try the following commands, what do you see:
$ [b:3f70acb6e3]prod sh prod[/b:3f70acb6e3]
----------------------------------- ----------- ------------
PRODUCT KIT TYPE STATE
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CPQ AXPVMS CDSA V2.1-331 Full LP Installed
CPQ AXPVMS CSWB V1.7-11 Full LP Installed
CPQ AXPVMS CSWS V1.3-1 Full LP Installed
CPQ AXPVMS CSWS_PHP V1.2-1 Full LP Installed
CPQ AXPVMS GTK V1.2-10 Full LP Installed
CPQ AXPVMS OPL V1.0-0A9 Full LP Installed
DEC AXPVMS CXML V5.2-1 Full LP Installed
DEC AXPVMS DWMOTIF V1.5 Full LP Installed
DEC AXPVMS FORRTL V7.6-1 Full LP Installed
DEC AXPVMS FORTRAN V7.6-1 Full LP Installed
DEC AXPVMS GNV V1.6-2 Full LP Installed
DEC AXPVMS JAVA142 V1.4-24P2 Full LP Installed
DEC AXPVMS OPENVMS V8.2 Platform Installed
DEC AXPVMS TCPIP V5.5-11 Full LP Installed
DEC AXPVMS VMS V8.2 Oper System Installed
HP AXPVMS AVAIL_MAN_BASE V8.2 Full LP Installed
HP AXPVMS KERBEROS V2.1-72 Full LP Installed
HP AXPVMS TDC_RT V2.1-69 Full LP Installed
JFP AXPVMS LIBBZ2 V1.0-2 Full LP Installed
JFP AXPVMS MYSQL V4.1-14 Full LP Installed
JFP AXPVMS OPENSSL097E V1.2-0 Full LP Installed
JFP AXPVMS ZLIB V1.2-3 Full LP Installed
STLK AXPVMS CGATEPRO V5.0-1 Full LP Installed
----------------------------------- ----------- ------------
23 items found
$ [b:3f70acb6e3]sea systartup_vms.com fort/wind=3[/b:3f70acb6e3]
$!
$! Uncomment the following command to start FORTRAN
$!
$ FILE = F$SEARCH("SYS$STARTUP:FORT$STARTUP.COM")
$ IF FILE .NES. "" THEN @'FILE'
$
$[b:3f70acb6e3] fortran/version[/b:3f70acb6e3]
HP Fortran V7.6-3276-48D52
$
Please show us your results and we can try to solve your problem.
Greetings Ton. |
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liviusmaximus
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Location: Sao Paulo, SP, Brazil
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| Posted on January 14 2006 04:07 |
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Hi Ton,
What I tried to do was to install Fortran kit booting the system from the cdrom following the menu which, for some reason, did not work reporting the error posted in my original question.
So, I tried the installation from the DCL command line and all went very smoothly with a successful result:
$ prod sh prod
----------------------------------- ----------- ------------
PRODUCT KIT TYPE STATE
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CPQ AXPVMS CDSA V1.0-2 Full LP Installed
DEC AXPVMS DECNET_OSI V7.3-1 Full LP Installed
DEC AXPVMS DWMOTIF V1.2-6 Full LP Installed
DEC AXPVMS FORRTL V7.5-1 Full LP Installed
DEC AXPVMS FORTRAN V7.5-1 Full LP Installed
DEC AXPVMS OPENVMS V7.3-1 Platform Installed
DEC AXPVMS VMS V7.3-1 Oper System Installed
----------------------------------- ----------- ------------
$ sea systartup_vms.com fort/wind=3
%SEARCH-I-NOMATCHES, no strings match
$ fortran/version
Compaq Fortran V7.5-1961-48BCD
My system is a DEC Alpha PWS 500au running OpenVMS 7.3-1,
dka0: system disk 36GB 10K.7
dka100: user disk 18GB
dka200: sys$sysfree 9GB
dkb400: cdrom1 512bytes/block
dkb500: cdrom2 512bytes/block
mkb0: exabyte1
mkb200: exabyte 2
dkb100: external disk for FreeBSD 9GB
Still remains the question: why the installation via cdrom failed ?
Is it because cdrom bootup is a standalone system ?
I appreciate comments on this matter.
Luiz |
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Anonymous
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| Posted on January 14 2006 04:45 |
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Hi Luiz,
Glad to hear that you can compile your sources now!
Something about the missing fortran startup procedure in systartup: It is not neccesary to run this procedure, but is you run a heavy, multi-user compile shop It will make a performance difference. The startup will only make the startup of the compiler(s) (F77 and F90) faster.
If you startup from a cd-rom the cd-rom becomes the "systemdisk". I imagine the installation procedure can easily get confused when it needs to modify or add some files to system directories (f.i. the DCL-tables)
I personally install or upgrade VMS booted from CDROM but everything else booted from the new systemdisk. As the need to reboot after installation of compilers and such is virtually non-existent (if your system-parameters are sufficient) I see no need to do such a thing stand-alone. If the dcl-tables are modified you can log out and log in again .
Greetings Ton. |
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Anonymous
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| Posted on January 14 2006 05:35 |
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Hi Ton,
Thanks for your prompt and clarifying answer.
By the way, do you use hobbyist license ?
I am asking because I can see that you have OVMS 8.2 and
many other stuff installed on your system that is not provided
in the hobbyist cdrom.
If so, how can I get Java, Basic and other LP products (that
are indeed hobbyist licensed). Is there any OVMS 8.2 available for the
hobbyist license ? I am struggling in finding it because HP
only provides the kits with the commercial license for a very high
price, as far as I know.
cheers,
Luiz |
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hobbyist running VMS 8.2??? |
ton.vanderzwet
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Location: Apeldoorn, The Netherlands
Joined: 12.01.06 |
| Posted on February 07 2006 10:29 |
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[quote aa6f81143="Anonymous"]Hi Ton,
Thanks for your prompt and clarifying answer.
By the way, do you use hobbyist license ?
I am asking because I can see that you have OVMS 8.2 and
many other stuff installed on your system that is not provided
in the hobbyist cdrom.
If so, how can I get Java, Basic and other LP products (that
are indeed hobbyist licensed). Is there any OVMS 8.2 available for the
hobbyist license ? I am struggling in finding it because HP
only provides the kits with the commercial license for a very high
price, as far as I know.
cheers,
Luiz[/quoteaa6f81143]
Hi Luiz,
excuses for the long delay. I only checked today for the first time if something was happening on this BB.
To answer your questions:
1- I am a pure hobbyist. OpenVMS advocate, if you will :wink:
2 - My employer has OpenVMS running and the hobbyist license allows me (i understand it as such) to use every version of OpenVMS I can get my hands on.
3 - As an active member of the dutch OpenVMS SIG with good contacts i managed to lend some media.
4 - java is downloadable from the HP site. If you have contacts from whom you can lend media, I think it's OK to use them to install the software, as long as you are licensed to do so (hobbyist license). Sometimes complete distributions are on e-bay...
5 - If you were living in the neighborhood I could help you. Contact me off-line and I can try to give you some names of people more capable in your neighborhood.
cheers,
Ton. |
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giacomo
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| Posted on November 01 2007 22:52 |
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hi all
I managed to install OpenVMS (TM) Alpha Operating System, Version V8.3
on a personalalpha virtual machine. (hobbyist license)
WOW, it's fun! 
But I can't understand how I could start the fortran
prod sh prod
------------------------------------ ----------- ---------
PRODUCT KIT TYPE STATE
------------------------------------ ----------- ---------
CPQ AXPVMS CDSA V2.2-271 Full LP Installed
DEC AXPVMS CXML V5.2-1 Full LP Installed
DEC AXPVMS DECNET_OSI V8.3 Full LP Installed
DEC AXPVMS DWMOTIF V1.6 Full LP Installed
DEC AXPVMS DWMOTIF_SUPPORT V8.3 Full LP Installed
DEC AXPVMS FORRTL V7.6-1 Full LP Installed
DEC AXPVMS FORTRAN V8.0-2 Full LP Installed
DEC AXPVMS OPENVMS V8.3 Platform Installed
DEC AXPVMS TCPIP V5.6-9 Full LP Installed
DEC AXPVMS VMS V8.3 Oper System Installed
HP AXPVMS AVAIL_MAN_BASE V8.3 Full LP Installed
HP AXPVMS KERBEROS V3.0-103 Full LP Installed
HP AXPVMS SSL V1.3-281 Full LP Installed
HP AXPVMS TDC_RT V2.2-107 Full LP Installed
------------------------------------ ----------- ---------
14 items found
$
I'm a total newbie , so I'm sure I'm doing smtg wrong....
but *what* is wrong?!
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giacomo
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| Posted on November 02 2007 03:28 |
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many thanks!
$ fortran/version
HP Fortran V8.0-1-104669-48GBT
$
:-)
[quote:f58492aebd="Stephen Hoffman"]
There are two sets of licenses that are associated with the hobbyist program, one set for the layered products, and a second set for the base operating system. Both sets need to be loaded.
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As far as i remember, i did it
show license gives me
Active licenses on node MINDVM:
------- Product ID -------- ---- Rating ----- -- Version --
Product Producer Units Avail Activ Version Release Termination
C DEC 0 0 100 0.0 (none) 16-OCT-2008
DW-MOTIF DEC 0 0 100 0.0 (none) 16-OCT-2008
FORTRAN DEC 0 0 100 0.0 (none) 16-OCT-2008
OPENVMS-ALPHA DEC 0 0 A 0.0 (none) 16-OCT-2008
UCX DEC 0 0 100 0.0 (none) 16-OCT-2008
UCX-IP-CLIENT DEC 0 0 100 0.0 (none) 16-OCT-2008
[quote:f58492aebd]
And in general, do consider starting a new thread for a new question, rather than thread-jacking an existing thread.[/quote:f58492aebd]
yes, you are right.
I upped the old topic cos initially i wasn't able to start the kid.
once found the solution, i just edited my old msg, forgetting were i was ;-) |
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A guess about why the PCSI install did not work |
vance
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| Posted on February 02 2008 23:15 |
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When installing a product on OpenVMS with PCSI, sometimes it will want to create temporary files. I've noticed with some products (e.g. DCPS) the installation will fail if your default directory is a CD-ROM or a directory which is not yours or not writable. |
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