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OpenVMS Hobbyist Program | VAX Systems Forums | VAX Hardware Forum
Author Where to buy?
smccloud
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Posts: 5
Joined: 28.11.17
Posted on December 01 2017 04:18
I am just starting to play around with VMS on SIMH, but I'd love some actual hardware. Does anyone know where a good place to buy an inexpensive machine to get started using physical hardware.
Author RE: Where to buy?
malmberg
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Joined: 15.04.08
Posted on December 01 2017 12:56
Start by reading https://sourceforge.net/p/vms-ports/wiki/VMSHardware/

This will give you some idea of how much work you want to take on why certain models are cheaper than others.

The major problem with all VAX hardware is finding hard disks that work on them.

For most models though, you can VMScluster them over Ethernet from a a SimH system.

Cost can range from 0 to thousands of dollars depending on your luck.

You may want to post your location here and on comp.os.vms in case someone nearby is clearing out their stuff.

Stuff from e-bay or other online sellers is the cheapest route if you need to buy, but the cheap stuff may not work and need repair.

Because VAX systems are used in embedded controls for manufacturing, many companies will keep replacing exact parts on a obsolete VAX, even though it would cost them thousands less to upgrade to a more current VMS system.

This actually results in some very bizarre pricing on the open market.

At one time, a MicroVAX I CPU/memory set was selling for 2x what the MicroVAX II replacement parts were selling for.
Author RE: Where to buy?
smccloud
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Joined: 28.11.17
Posted on December 04 2017 07:11
My current issue is most machines I have run Windows, and I haven't been able to compile SimH myself on Windows yet so I do not have any sort of networking. Would a Raspberry Pi 3 be a good machine to run SimH on?
Author RE: Where to buy?
malmberg
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Posted on December 04 2017 13:36
People have reported success in getting Raspberry Pi systems to build and run SimH. I have not yet tried that combination

People have also reported success in getting SimH to build on Microsoft Windows, how ever networking requires some type of tap (tuntap?) adapter.

You may want to look FreeAxp, which is hosting a forum on this site.
https://www.openvmshobbyist.com/forum/viewforum.php?forum_id=163

Just about any machine that runs Windows can be converted to a Linux machine.

You can also use virtualbox to have Windows host a Linux machine if it has enough resources.
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malmberg
August 04 2022
No more VAX hobbyist licenses. Community licenses for Alpha/IA64/X86_64 VMS Software Inc. Commercial VMS software licenses for VAX available from HPE.

ozboomer
July 20 2022
Just re-visiting.. No more hobbyist licenses? Is that from vmssoftware.com, no 'community' licenses?

valdirfranco
July 01 2022
No more hobbyist license...sad

mister_wavey
February 12 2022
I recall that the disks failed on the public access VMS systems that included Fafner

parwezw
January 03 2022
Anyone know what happened to FAFNER.DYNDS.ORG? I had a hobbyist account here but can longer access the site.

gtackett
October 27 2021
Make that DECdfs _2.1A_ for Vax

gtackett
October 27 2021
I'm looking for DECdfs V2.4A kit for VAX. Asking here just in case anyone is still listening.

MarkRLV
September 17 2021
At one time, didn't this web site have a job board? I would love to use my legacy skills one last time in my career.

malmberg
January 18 2021
New Hobbyist PAKs for VAX/VMS are no longer available according to reports. Only commercial licenses are reported to be for sale from HPE

dfilip
January 16 2021
Can someone please point me to hobbyist license pak? I'm looking for VAX/VMS 7.1, DECnet Phase IV, and UCX/TCPIP ... have the 7.1 media, need the license paks ... thanks!

Bart
October 16 2020
OpenVMS, and this website!

malmberg
September 05 2020
VSI community non-commercial licenses for AXP/IA64 are available now.

malmberg
September 05 2020
See the forum about licensing. Don't know if HPE hobby licenses still being issued. Commercial licenses still being sold.

silfox70
September 01 2020
I need the license for OpenVMS7.3. Where can I find them?

malmberg
August 29 2020
Eisner, which is currently being moved, got an SSH update and the keys were updated to more modern encryption standards.

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