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Author Howto install vax kits?
petersieg
Member

Posts: 9
Joined: 14.03.16
Posted on March 14 2016 01:00
Dear all.

I have sucessfully installed openvms073 on simulated simh vax.
cd-rom file is attached -r.

prod sh prod just shows openvms 073.

At same download location one can find F77 compiler as a zip file.

Question: what steps are required to install that (f77 compiler) in simh-vax?

I think, I have to:
unzip zip file
make in somehow available to simh-vax as cdrom/tape file?
attach & mount that file
use vmsinstall command?

A step by step guide would be great. I googled a bit but could only locate bits and pieces of
information..

thanks, Peter
Edited by petersieg on March 14 2016 01:01
Author RE: Howto install vax kits?
petersieg
Member

Posts: 9
Joined: 14.03.16
Posted on March 15 2016 00:44
ok.

I put some vax kits within 8.3 file name conventions together with unzip.exe in an iso file and made that available as dua3: to simh-vax. I manage to install unzip properly:
copy unzip.exe sys$system
$ unzip :== $sys$system:unzip (-> put that in sys$login:login.com at end of file)

---
Then I tried to install cobol057:
Directory SYS$SYSROOT:[SYSMGR.KITS]

BASIC.ZIP;1 C.ZIP;1 COBOL.DIR;1 COBOL.ZIP;1
F77.ZIP;1 PASCAL.ZIP;1 UNZIP.EXE;1 ZORKVMS.ZIP;1

Total of 8 files.
$ set def [.cobol]
$ dir

Directory SYS$SYSROOT:[SYSMGR.KITS.COBOL]

COBOL057.A;1 COBOL057.B;1 COBOL057.C;1 COBOL057_IGUIDE.TXT;
1

Total of 4 files.
$ @sys$update:vmsinstal cobol057 sys$sysroot:[sysmgr.kits.cobol]


OpenVMS VAX Software Product Installation Procedure V7.3


It is 15-MAR-2016 at 11:35.

Enter a question mark (?) at any time for help.

* Are you satisfied with the backup of your system disk [YES]?


The following products will be processed:

COBOL V5.7


Beginning installation of COBOL V5.7 at 11:35

%VMSINSTAL-I-RESTORE, Restoring product save set A ...
%VMSINSTAL-I-RELMOVED, Product's release notes have been moved to SYS$HELP.
+----------------------------------------------------------------------------+
| Installation Command Procedure for |
| Compaq COBOL V5.7-63 Compiler for OpenVMS VAX. |
+----------------------------------------------------------------------------+

Copyright 2000 Compaq Computer Corporation

COMPAQ Registered in U.S. Patent and Trademark Office.

Confidential computer software. Valid license from Compaq required for
possession, use or copying. Consistent with FAR 12.211 and 12.212,
Commercial Computer Software, Computer Software Documentation, and
Technical Data for Commercial Items are licensed to the U.S. Government
under vendor's standard commercial license.

%COBOL-E-INSGLBPAG, This product uses 950 global pages during instal
%VMSINSTAL-E-INSFAIL, The installation of COBOL V5.7 has failed.

Adding history entry in VMI$ROOT:[SYSUPD]VMSINSTAL.HISTORY


VMSINSTAL procedure done at 11:35


$
---
Do I need to install license for cobol 1st or what might be the issue here?

thanks, Peter
Edited by petersieg on March 15 2016 00:45
Author RE: Howto install vax kits?
Bruce Claremont
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Posts: 623
Joined: 07.01.10
Posted on March 15 2016 02:22
You need more pages allocated to complete the install. Read the installation requirements in the installation guide, which is included in the install kit.

If you install the license first, then the IVP can run at the end of the installation and verify a good install.
Author RE: Howto install vax kits?
petersieg
Member

Posts: 9
Joined: 14.03.16
Posted on March 17 2016 00:41
ok. thx. I read through guide.. I edited modparams.dat. I run autogen. I rebootet. But nothing seems to change..?
---
Welcome to OpenVMS (TM) VAX Operating System, Version V7.3

Username: system
Password:
Welcome to OpenVMS (TM) VAX Operating System, Version V7.3
←[c←\←Z←[0cteractive login on Thursday, 17-MAR-2016 11:33
%SET-W-NOTSET, error modifying OPA0:
-SET-I-UNKTERM, unknown terminal type
$ install
INSTALL> list/global/summary

Summary of Local Memory Global Sections

212 Global Sections Used, 14490/110 Global Pages Used/Unused
INSTALL> exit
$ type sys$system:modparams.dat
SCSNODE="SIMVAX"
SCSSYSTEMID=1025
VAXCLUSTER=0
MIN_GBLSECTIONS=1000
MIN_GBLPAGES=10000
$ run sys$system:sysgen
SYSGEN> USE CURRENT
SYSGEN> SHOW GBLSECTIONS
Parameter Name Current Default Min. Max. Unit Dynamic

-------------- ------- ------- ------- ------- ---- -------

GBLSECTIONS 1000 250 60 4095 Sections
SYSGEN> SHOW GBLPAGES
Parameter Name Current Default Min. Max. Unit Dynamic

-------------- ------- ------- ------- ------- ---- -------

GBLPAGES 14600 15000 512 4194176 Pages
SYSGEN> EXIT
$ @sys$update:vmsnsta
*INTERRUPT*

$ @sys$update:vmsinstal cobol057 sys$sysroot:[sysmgr.kits.cobol]


OpenVMS VAX Software Product Installation Procedure V7.3


It is 17-MAR-2016 at 11:39.

Enter a question mark (?) at any time for help.

* Are you satisfied with the backup of your system disk [YES]?


The following products will be processed:

COBOL V5.7


Beginning installation of COBOL V5.7 at 11:39

%VMSINSTAL-I-RESTORE, Restoring product save set A ...
%VMSINSTAL-I-RELMOVED, Product's release notes have been moved to SYS$HELP.
+----------------------------------------------------------------------------+
| Installation Command Procedure for |
| Compaq COBOL V5.7-63 Compiler for OpenVMS VAX. |
+----------------------------------------------------------------------------+

Copyright 2000 Compaq Computer Corporation

COMPAQ Registered in U.S. Patent and Trademark Office.

Confidential computer software. Valid license from Compaq required for
possession, use or copying. Consistent with FAR 12.211 and 12.212,
Commercial Computer Software, Computer Software Documentation, and
Technical Data for Commercial Items are licensed to the U.S. Government
under vendor's standard commercial license.

%COBOL-E-INSGLBPAG, This product uses 950 global pages during instal
%VMSINSTAL-E-INSFAIL, The installation of COBOL V5.7 has failed.

Adding history entry in VMI$ROOT:[SYSUPD]VMSINSTAL.HISTORY


VMSINSTAL procedure done at 11:39


$

What am I doing wrong?

thx.
Author RE: Howto install vax kits?
malmberg
Moderator

Posts: 530
Joined: 15.04.08
Posted on March 17 2016 02:07
modparams.dat is simply an input file to the sys$update:autogen.com procedure. Changing it does nothing until you run autogen.

read https://sourceforge.net/p/vms-ports/wiki/SystemTuning/

Read the VMS System Managers guide for system tuning next.

@sys$update:autogen getdata setdata setparams

Examine the text file agen$params.report to make sure it has no issues.

If it does, re-edit the modparams.dat and re-run autogen

When you are satisfied, a reboot is usually required to pick up the changes unless only dynamic parameters are changed.
Author RE: Howto install vax kits?
Bruce Claremont
Member

Posts: 623
Joined: 07.01.10
Posted on March 17 2016 02:17
$ @sys$update:autogen getdata genparams
$ @sys$update:autogen setparams reboot
Author RE: Howto install vax kits?
petersieg
Member

Posts: 9
Joined: 14.03.16
Posted on March 17 2016 23:52
Guys. Thx. But this is not getting any further. I did edited modparams.dat. I did run autogen.
I typed the agen$params.report. The unused global pages remain at 110 - too low to install software..?
---
$ @sys$update:autogen getdata genparams
%AUTOGEN-I-BEGIN, GETDATA phase is beginning.
%AUTOGEN-I-NEWFILE, A new version of SYS$SYSTEMsmileyARAMS.DAT has been created.
You may wish to purge this file.
%AUTOGEN-I-END, GETDATA phase has successfully completed.
%AUTOGEN-I-BEGIN, GENPARAMS phase is beginning.
%AUTOGEN-I-NEWFILE, A new version of SYS$MANAGER:VMSIMAGES.DAT has been created

You may wish to purge this file.

%AUTOGEN-I-REPORT, AUTOGEN has produced some informational messages which
have been stored in the file SYS$SYSTEM:AGEN$PARAMS.REPORT. You may
wish to review the information in that file.
%AUTOGEN-I-NEWFILE, A new version of SYS$SYSTEM:SETPARAMS.DAT has been created.
You may wish to purge this file.
%AUTOGEN-I-END, GENPARAMS phase has successfully completed.
$ type sys$system:agent$params.report
%TYPE-W-SEARCHFAIL, error searching for SYS$COMMON:[SYSEXE]AGENT$PARAMS.REPORT;
-RMS-E-FNF, file not found
$ type sys$system:agen$params.report
AUTOGEN Parameter Calculation Report on node: Nodename is Unknown
This information was generated at 18-MAR-2016 10:38:45.14
AUTOGEN was run from GETDATA to GENPARAMS - default execution specified

** No changes will be done by AUTOGEN **
The values given in this report are what AUTOGEN would
have set the parameters to.


Processing Parameter Data files
-------------------------------

Including parameters from: SYS$SYSTEM:MODPARAMS.DAT

This run of AUTOGEN is *NOT* based on FEEDBACK information.
The resulting calculations may not be representative of your workload.
DIGITAL recommends the use of feedback to adjust system resources to
match system workloads.


Parameter information follows:
------------------------------

Information on VMS executable image Processing:

Processing SYS$MANAGER:VMS$IMAGES_MASTER.DAT

GBLSECTIONS parameter information:
Override Information - parameter calculation has been overridden.
The calculated value was 280. The new value is 1000.
GBLSECTIONS is not allowed to be less than 1000.
PQL_DPGFLQUOTA has been increased to accomodate the working set
requirements of PQL_DWSEXTENT.
PQL_MPGFLQUOTA has been increased to accomodate the working set
requirements of PQL_MWSEXTENT.

SCSSYSTEMID parameter information:
Override Information - parameter calculation has been overridden.
The calculated value was 0. The new value is 1025.
SCSSYSTEMID has been set to the hard-coded value of 1025.
$

$ @sys$update:autogen setparams reboot

...

--- reboot ---

Welcome to OpenVMS (TM) VAX Operating System, Version V7.3

Username: system
Password:
Welcome to OpenVMS (TM) VAX Operating System, Version V7.3
←[c←\←Z←[0cteractive login on Friday, 18-MAR-2016 10:37
%SET-W-NOTSET, error modifying OPA0:
-SET-I-UNKTERM, unknown terminal type
$ install
INSTALL> list/global/summary

Summary of Local Memory Global Sections

212 Global Sections Used, 14490/110 Global Pages Used/Unused
INSTALL>

I do not want to become a system admin on vms (yet).
I just want to install some compilers and compile a few programs - that's it..

So some 3-5 command/steps that's get me there would really be appreciated..

Many thanks,
Peter
Author RE: Howto install vax kits?
petersieg
Member

Posts: 9
Joined: 14.03.16
Posted on March 18 2016 00:14
ok. I set modparams.dat to the values given in above link:


run autogen and this time it seems to work:
https://sourceforge.net/p/vms-ports/wiki/SystemTuning/

INSTALL> list/global/summary

Summary of Local Memory Global Sections

213 Global Sections Used, 14662/4179514 Global Pages Used/Unused
INSTALL> exit
$ type sys$system:modparams.dat
SCSNODE="SIMVAX"
SCSSYSTEMID=1025
VAXCLUSTER=0
MIN_MAXPROCESSCNT=150
MIN_GBLPAGFIL=600000
MIN_GBLSECTIONS=1200
MIN_GBLPAGES=10050000
MIN_CHANNELCNT=4096
MIN_NPAGEDYN=6300000
MIN_WSMAX=250000
MIN_MAXBUF=8200
$

Author RE: Howto install vax kits?
petersieg
Member

Posts: 9
Joined: 14.03.16
Posted on March 18 2016 01:31
ok. Now I could install cobol incl. license and compile a hello world program.

thanks for all your help!

Peter
Author RE: Howto install vax kits?
petersieg
Member

Posts: 9
Joined: 14.03.16
Posted on March 18 2016 04:49
Just in case someone wants some hello world programs.. here for basic 039 compiler:
---
$ create mandel.bas (input source below..; CTRL-Z)
$ basic mandel.bas
$ link mandel
$ run mandel

XXX
X XXX
XXXXXXXXXX
XXXXXXXXXXX
X X XXXXXXXXXXXX
XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX
XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX
XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX
XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX
X X XXXXXXXXXXXX
XXXXXXXXXXX
XXXXXXXXXX
X XXX
XXX
X

$
$
$ type mandel.bas
10 REM Mandelbrot
20 FOR PY=1 TO 15
22 FOR PX=1 TO 31
24 X=0
25 XT=0
26 Y=0
27 FOR I=0 TO 11
28 XT=(X*X)/10-(Y*Y)/10+(PX-23)
29 Y=(X*Y)/5+(10*PY-75)/8
30 X=XT
31 IF (X/10)*X+(Y/10)*Y >= 400 THEN GOTO 35
32 NEXT I
33 PRINT "X";
34 GOTO 36
35 PRINT " ";
36 NEXT PX
37 PRINT
38 NEXT PY
39 END
$

Peter
Edited by petersieg on March 18 2016 04:54
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